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A recent post in Active Rain asked very simply "When Do Realtors Stop Working for Free?" She mentioned that she: "got an email today from a colleague who is a real estate investor. He is very savvy and someone who "gets" it. His advice can be summed up in a couple of snippets. If we are as smart as we think we are and we give great advice, why are we giving it away?"

The comments were overwhelmingly from agents that agreed with her premise but questioned how they could get paid in any way other than by commission. But there were a few responses that blew me away - one actually said that she "hated this conversation" because she maintained that we are (I guess she thinks we always have to be) commissioned salespeople without ever letting her mind expand that practices change when businesses do.

"Don't get too close to me...I have a cold!" We have believed for so long that breathing the same air will spread germs, that it's almost a given. But if you talk to medical professionals, they will tell you that colds and viruses are rarely spread by breathing the same air. It's the exchange of body fluids that spread the germs.

In our profession, we have been told, and continue to tell the consumer, that a commission is a payment for services rendered. We've repeated it for so long that, almost universally, we believe it to be true. But logically, it's not. The consumer knows this and with a tight economy, they are increasingly asking some very logical questions:

The current standard for an adviser is that they must recommend only products that are suitable. A Fiduciary would be required to recommend the most suitable products.

Yesterday's Toronto Globe & Mail Report on Business grabbed me with an article about the duties of financial advisors to their clients and how they are paid. It's hard to miss the parallel to our business as this piece explores the need for the financial services industry to assume their appropriate fiduciary duties.

The takeaway from this is that if consumers want transparency from the financial services industry they want it from the real estate industry as well. Consulting is clearly the way to deliver it real estate clients!

Here's the link

If you scroll down far enough after reading the article,

Agents and consumers often tap-dance around the topic of how much a buyer's agent makes.

Homebuyers sometimes believe that since sellers pay the commission in most real estate transactions, their agents are really working for them for free.

But is that the case?

Agents and consumers often tap-dance around the topic of how much a buyer's agent makes (or nets, for that matter). Often, the commission - or any bonuses offered - are a bit of a secret. In many real estate purchase contracts, the amount the brokerage and agent make are omitted.

In a recent post on Active Rain, an agent posed this question and her answer was "Sometimes you need to make adjustments." Of course her "adjustments" were to simply cut her commission when a deal was threatened. She included an image of a tightly fitting corset.

I would answer the question totally differently: maybe it's time that we abandon the corset and start wearing underwear that fits with our times. In other words, maybe the adjustments we need to make are with how we're paid rather than continuing to loosen the corset more and more till it's lost it's usefulness.


A recent post on Active Rain initiated a wide ranging discussion of how REALTORS® get paid. Two ACRE® colleagues, whose judgement in such matters I respect, happened to notice my little contribution to that discussion and suggested I reproduce it here...

To me, our method of remuneration is inextricably tied to how we see our role and how we practice. Perhaps adding a little context will usefully extend the discussion in this thread.

We offer consumers the opportunity to choose the necessary services and how to pay for them.

There was a post this week on Active Rain from an agent explaining how when asked, he will not cut his commissions. By weeks end, there were nearly 200 comments to his post, some agents cheering him on for his stand, others arguing the opposite, some comments from lenders, appraisers, and home inspectors arguing for and against.

But of the 200 some odd comments on the subject of cutting commissions, only two brought up the idea that maybe there is a choice other than cutting or not cutting commissions - from ACRE® Ron Stuart and myself.

Here's what I said:

The problem with discussing commissions as payment for services is that the consumer doesn't buy the reasoning. If it's a million dollar home, can you honestly say that you do four times as much work as you do on a $250k listing? We, in the industry defend it because what we make on an expensive listing makes up for all of the work we do with homes that don't sell and buyers that don't buy. While that makes perfect sense from our vantage point, you can't blame the seller for saying "What's in this for me? Why am I subsidizing the deals that don't close?"

Conducting oneself as a consultant AND offering transparent choice in services provided and the cost associated with those services sets us apart

We're having a great discussion on our private ACRE list serve, The Coaching Exchange, about consulting. It's clear from the discussion that there is still a lot of confusion about the role that a trained consultant performs and how they are paid for their services.

As we've said many times, consulting is not about a fee schedule! Consulting is a practice that provides quality, transparent choices with commission being just one of the choices offered. You can do 100% of your business by commission and yet practice as a consultant because you have the tools in your toolbox to offer other choices, both in the services you offer and how you can get paid. Providing choices is a wonderful thing - it brings you the business regardless of how they ultimately pay.

Why do sellers look at us blankly when we try to explain commissions?

...whether they are dealing with Health Care or Real Estate Services.


I was chatting with a friend of mine last week when he admitted that he had been without health insurance since he got out of college. Given that he's a real estate agent, that's not so surprising: as an independent contractor he's on his own regarding health insurance and many in our industry have simply taken their chances, especially when they are young and healthy like my friend Jack.

But as part of the approximately 15% of Americans who are uninsured, Jack has a window on a phenomenon that few of the rest of us ever see: what health services actually cost. You see, Jack was playing softball one Saturday a couple of weeks ago and sprained his ankle. As luck would have it, a member of the team was a physician and offered to take a look at the ankle at his office. After his ankle was wrapped up, Jack offered to pay him.

If we are going to be regarded and respected as fiduciaries, we need to stop being limited to a salesperson's compensation.

There has been a lot of discussion of late on real estate blogs regarding buyer agency and the plusses and minuses of working in a buyer agency-only firm (Exclusive Buyer Agency) versus practicing buyer agency in a brokerage that also includes seller agency.

The main theme around these threads is how to get the consumer to trust, and thus demand, their own representation. The proponents of Exclusive Buyer Agency argue that the problem of trust would be eliminated if the public could understand the advantages of having an entire office that just practices buyer agency. Practitioners of buyer agency in traditional brokerages (those that have both buyer and seller agents in the same firm) argue that with the advent of designated agency, practicing buyer agency in a traditional firm no longer presents a conflict of interest.

...what we are asking the consumer to believe is that we can provide objective counsel that is in THEIR best interest when our compensation is wholly dependent on an outcome that we're advising them on!

Despite years of advertising by the National Association of REALTORS® and an increasing number of required ethics courses, most recent polls continue to show real estate agents at the bottom of the consumer trust list behind insurance agents and barely beating out stockbrokers. When asked in the most recent Harris Poll "If you were getting professional help or advice from each of the following, how much would you trust them to give you advice which was best for you?", only 20% of respondents indicated that they trusted the advice of real estate agents completely.

But why in the world should this surprise us? As long as we insist on being paid exclusively by commission, what we are asking the consumer to believe is that we can provide objective counsel that is in THEIR best interest when our compensation is wholly dependent on an outcome that we're advising them on!

Know your value. Because when you peel back all the hype and really understand today's consumer, what they really want is real estate choice, not real estate cheap.

Recently on the ACRE® Coaching Exchange, our coaching platform for ACRE® graduates, we had a very interesting discussion about where our value today lies as agents. It seems that in the tough market that we are working in, many agents are competing for listings by charging less than the competition and requiring less commitment in the way of an exclusive agency contracts with buyers.

This is so sad because you can never compete on price and stay in business. No matter how low you go, there will always be some desperate soul who will charge less. And when you don't require a commitment from those you work with, you only underscore that your time, experience, and expertise has no value.

Or just "Fee-For-Service"? Think Again.

A few years back when I was teaching "Introduction to Real Estate Consulting" at boards and associations, it was common for agents, brokers, and managers who didn't understand consulting to dismiss it as "discounting". This type of comment was always amusing to me because in fact, I developed my consulting model as an antidote to discounting.

Lunacy is doing the same thing but expecting different results

Over the last year or so, as the market has softened in many areas, newer agents who found making money so easy just a few years ago are getting out of the industry. Agents who remain are being told to "get back to the basics". The problem is that "the basics" have dramatically changed in the last few years. Gone are the days when cold calling, sending out postcards, spending your valuable time at open houses, working floor time, etc. actually worked.

Where are those fee-for-service agents? Under cover.

In the article, "Discount Brokerages Band Together" Matt Carter of Inman News wrote that Virginia-based RebateReps.com helps agents who want to dabble in discounting without alienating full-commission customers, or work for a discount broker full time. "Most Realtors® don't want to advertise themselves as rebate agents because it cannibalizes their other business," said RebateReps founder and owner Daniel Rubén Odio-Páez. "RebateReps connects buyers to local agents who are willing to rebate part of their commission but don't necessarily want to advertise that fact." Odio said. "RebateReps allows agents to have their full-service brokerage and to service our (discount commission) leads."

Limited service is not a bad thing if that is what the consumer needs. I call it CHOICE.

One of the ACRE® Grads on our Graduate Coaching Exchange recently posted the following: "I have been talking up this whole consulting idea within my office and the other agents are so critical, suggesting that I am advocating limited service brokerage. And while I am saying no way, I am having trouble defending my position. HELP!"

Activity based pricing just makes more sense
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Note: Republished from the Northern Virginia Real Estate Guide

October 17, 2006

The traditional commission model has no relationship to effort and expense across a wide spectrum of property types, markets and price ranges. We (Pam and I) began using consumer Choice models when I established our relationship with RE/MAX on August 1, 2004. We have accumulated significant experience with different approaches and what works and what doesn't; the pitfalls, potholes, roadblocks and agent/broker scourge as well as documented successes. This stuff works! I believe it IS the future for the real professionals in this business.


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